Managing multiple clouds – Joe Kinsella – ep73

This show was recorded pre the announcement on August 27th, 2018 of CloudHealth Technologies acquisition by VMware.

This is the 3rd in our series looking at the move to public cloud, the challenges involved and some of the tips and technologies that can help you to overcome them. In this episode we look at perhaps the biggest challenge facing most organisations moving to public cloud, the issues of multi-cloud.

A few weeks ago I published a post about multi-cloud becoming the technology industries holy grail (Tech and the holy multi cloud grail) as they look at ways to extract the complexity from multi-cloud environments and allow us to build solutions that encompass our infrastructure be it on-prem, in a co-lo or a public hyperscale provider. The benefits of multi-cloud deployments are many and will be a major part of our future use of cloud.

On this weeks show we look at those issues surrounding multi-cloud and particularly how to manage it, maintain cost efficiency, govern and ensure security of our cloud based assets. To discuss this I’m joined by Joe Kinsella CTO and Founder of CloudHealth Tech, a company that have built a platform to pull together information from numerous environments, consolidate it into one place and allow you to make informed, proactive decisions to ensure you use your technology in the best way you can.

During the episode we explore some wide-ranging topics, we look at why complexity is an issue, how multi-cloud was initially “stumbled upon” but is now becoming a chosen strategy. We ask why don’t we expect cloud to be complex when much of what we do in our datacentres is very complicated? Joe also confesses that 3-4 years ago he was predicting the death of the on-prem DC and why he has revaluated that with hybrid becoming the deployment reality.

We also discuss the traits for successful multi-cloud deployment and why a cloud first strategy isn’t about everything in the cloud, but more about can we use cloud? should we use cloud?

We wrap up discussing the CloudHealth Tech platform, what it does and how it helps to manage a multi-cloud environment by pulling together clouds, on-prem and automation platforms, connecting all the information to provide the business insights needed for proactive decision making. Finally, we look at the maturity of cloud management and how it needs to move beyond cost control and embrace security and governance as the evolution of multi-cloud management.

Joe gives some great insight and CloudHealth Technologies deliver a very powerful platform, so powerful that VMware saw fit to acquire them.

To find out more about CloudHealth Tech you can visit their website www.cloudhealthtech.com

Follow them on twitter @cloudhealthtech

You can find out more from Joe on twitter @joekinsella, his CloudHealth Tech blog www.cloudhealthtech.com/blog and finally his own blog hightechinthehub.com.

Enjoy and thanks for listening.

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Managing all of the clouds – Lauren Malhoit – Ep67

As the move to cloud continues we are starting to see a new development, with organisations no longer relying on a single cloud provider to deliver their key services, many now opting for multiple providers, from their own data centre to hyperscale big boys, multi-cloud environments are becoming the norm.

This multi-cloud environment makes perfect sense, the whole point of adopting cloud is to provide you with the flexibility to consume your data, infrastructure, applications and services from the best provider at any given time, which would be very difficult to do if we only had a single provider.

However, multi-cloud comes with a challenge, one rather well summed up at an event recently by the phrase “clouds are the new silo’s”. Our cloud providers are all very different in the way they build and operate their infrastructure and although when we take services from one provider we may well not notice or care, when we start to employ multiple vendors it can quickly become a problem.

How to avoid cloud silo’s is seemingly becoming a technology “holy grail” engaging many of the world’s biggest tech vendors.  This is only good news, as we move into a world where we want the freedom and flexibility to choose whichever “cloud” is the best fit for us at any given time, then will will only be able to do this if we overcome the challenge that comes with managing and operating across these multiple environments.

Taking on this challenge is the subject of this week’s podcast with my guest Lauren Malhoit of Juniper Networks and co-host of the excellent Tech Village Podcast.

Lauren recently sent me a document entitled “The Five Step Multi Cloud Migration Framework” It caught my attention as it discusses the multi-cloud challenge and provides some thoughts on how to address it and it is those ideas that form the basis for this week’s show..

We open the discussion by trying to define what multi-cloud is and why it’s important that we don’t assume that all businesses are already rushing headlong into self-driving, self-healing, multi-cloud worlds. We chat about how a strategy is more likely to be for helping a business start along this road, rather than managing something they already have.

We explore how multi-cloud doesn’t just mean Azure and AWS, but can equally apply to multiples of your own datacenters and infrastructure.

Lauren shares her view on the importance of automation, especially when we look at the need for consistency and how this is not just about consistent infrastructure, but also compliance, security and manageability.

We also ask the question, why bother? Do we really need a multi-cloud infrastructure? Does it really open up new ways for our organisation to operate?

We wrap up looking at the importance of being multi-vendor, multi-platform and open and how that openness cannot come with a cost of complexity.

Finally, we discuss some use cases for multi-cloud as well as taking on the challenge of people in our business and the importance of how a multi-cloud world shouldn’t be seen as a threat, but as an opportunity for career growth and development.

I hope you enjoy what I thought was a fascinating conversation about an increasingly pressing challenge.

To find out more about the work Juniper are doing in this space you can look out for forthcoming announcements at Juniper.net as well as check out some of the information published on their Github repo’s.

To find out more about the work Lauren is doing you can follow her on twitter @malhoit or her blog over at adaptingit.com

Also check out the fantastic Techvillage Podcast if you are interested in career development and finding out about the tech world of others in the IT community.

Juniper also have some great resources for learning about designing a multi cloud environment check out the original white paper that inspired this podcast The Five Step Multi Cloud Migration Framework and you’ll also find some great info in this post Get Your Data Center Ready for Multicloud

Until next time – thanks for listening