Keeping your data incognito – Harry Keen – Ep 45

Sharing our data is an important part of our day to day activities, be that for analysis, collaboration or system development, we need to be able to share data sets.

However, this need to share has to be balanced with our needs to maintain the security of our data assets.

I saw a great example of this recently with a company who were convinced they were suffering a data breach and having data leak to their competitors. They investigated all the areas you’d expect, data going out via email, been uploaded to sites that it shouldn’t, or been copied to external devices and leaving the company. None of this investigation seemed to identify any areas of leak.

They then discovered that they had a team of developers who, in order to carry out their dev and test work, where given copies of the full production database, so not only given all of the organisations sensitive data, but they had full and unencumbered administrative access to it.

Now, I’m not saying the developers where at the centre of the leak, however you can see the dilemma, for the business to function and develop, the software teams needed access to real data that represented actual working sets, but too provide that, the business was exposing itself to a real data security threat.

How do we address that problem and allow our data to be useful for analysis, collaboration and development, while keeping it secure and the information contained safe and private?

One answer is data anonymization and that is the subject of this week’s show, as I’m joined by Harry Keen, CEO and founder of anon.ai an innovative new company looking to address many of the challenges that come with data anonymization.

In our wide-ranging discussion, we explore the part anonymization plays in compliance and protection and why the difficulty of current techniques means that we often poorly anonymize data, or we are not even bothering.

We explore why anonymization is so difficult and how solutions that can automate and simplify the process will make this important addition to our data security toolkit, more accessible to us all.

Anonymization plays an important part in allowing us to maintain the value of our data as a usable and flexible asset while maintaining its privacy and our compliance with ever-tightening regulation.

Harry provides some great insights into the challenge and some of the ways to address it.

To find out more on this topic, check out the following resources;

The UK Anonymization Network (UKAN)

The UK Information Commissioner (ICO)

And of course you can find out more about anon.ai here

You can follow Harry on twitter @harry_keen18 and anon.ai @anon_dot_ai

You can contact anon.ai via info@anon.ai

Hopefully, that’s given you some background into the challenges of data anonymization and how you can start to address them, allowing you to continue to extract value from your data while maintaining its privacy.

Next week I’m joined by Ian Moore as we take a Blockchain 101, to ensure you catch that episode why not subscribe to the show? you can find us in all the usual podcast homes.

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Securing all of the things – Valory Batchellor – Ep44

It’s not news to anyone listening to this show that the challenge around the security of our data and systems is a substantial one. Our technology seems to be under constant threat, from external hackers, to insiders, from targeted attacks to malware finding its way randomly onto our systems and causing havoc and all of this before we look at increased regulation and compliance demands.

The ever-increasing threat has led to us looking to technology to help protect our systems, however this has now led to its own problems, with many of us investing in numerous platforms and tools which has created a huge sprawl of solutions, that do not interact, all have their own consoles and all are presenting us with alerts and notifications that we then expect our already stretched IT function to understand and act upon.

This range of individual tools of course, also means that problems can “slip through the net” as the disjointed use of technology does not necessarily allow us to see the correlation between alerts that in themselves are insignificant, but when put together point to an attack or breach in progress.

It is this problem that has inspired this series of Tech Interviews episodes looking at the security challenge, we have episodes looking at some new approaches with anonymization and blockchain, but we start by looking at the bigger picture, of building a modern security strategy.

I’m joined by Valory Batchellor of IBM. IBM has done some interesting work in building what they call their Immune System, this looks to help people step back from the problem and take a wider strategic approach to tackling the security threat.

In this chat we look at the current and evolving threat, the challenges presented by multiple, disjointed security tools and we also discuss the future and how machine learning and artificial intelligence could give us an infinite amount of security analysts, working on an infinite amount of security problems, with unlimited resources!

Valory provides some fantastic insight with a real enthusiasm and obvious expertise for her subject, so enjoy the show as we look to “secure all of the things”.

You can find Valory on twitter @ValBatchellor

You can find out more from IBM security at securityintelligence.com and www.ibm.com as well as look at some of the research from IBM x-force.

And do look at the work the national cybersecurity centre here in the UK is doing via their website www.ncsc.gov.uk

Next week I’m joined by Harry Keen from anon.ai as we look at data anonymization and the part it plays in data security.

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Don’t be scared – GDPR is a good thing, embrace it!

I can’t open my inbox these days without someone telling me about the European Union, General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), the content of these emails ranging from the complex to the scaremongering.

However, what I don’t see are the ones extolling the positives of the regulation.

In my humble opinion, GDPR is a driver for some very positive change in the way that we as businesses, use the data that we have and will continue to collect in ever-growing amounts.

I’m sure we’ve all heard how data is the new gold, oil, etc, and to many of us our data is among the most valuable assets we hold and as I heard recently “the ability to gain actionable insights from data is what will separate us from our competition.” I personally believe this to be true, the businesses that know how to manage and gain value from their data will be the ones that are the success stories of the future.

If data is such an asset, then…

Why do we keep hearing stories about high profile data breaches, such as Equifax and Deloitte, where sensitive information has found itself in the public domain? If data is an asset, then why are we so lax with its security? Are we that lax with other assets?

Data is hard

The problem is, that managing data is hard, we don’t know what we have, where it is, who has access, and when or even if they access it. This lack of insight makes securing and managing data a huge challenge — and why the idea of more stringent regulation is a frightening prospect for many.

Why is GDPR a good thing?

The GDPR is going to force organizations to address these problems head-on, something that, for mthumbs upany of us, is long overdue. Although the regulation focuses on the privacy of “data subjects,” the principles can and should be applied to all of our data.

To be clear, GDPR is not a data management framework. Its scope is much wider than that. It is a legal and compliance framework and should be treated as such. But, while GDPR is “not an IT problem,” it’s certainly a technology challenge, and technology will be crucial in our ability to be compliant.

Why GDPR and technology is helpful

Even If GDPR did not demand our compliance, I would still thoroughly recommend it as a set of good practices that, if you’re serious about the value of your data, you should be following.

I believe the principles of the GDPR, along with smart technology choices, can positively revolutionize how we look after and get the very best from our data.

In the last 12 months or so, I’ve done a lot of work in this area and have found 4 key areas, where the GDPR alongside some appropriate technology choices has made a real difference.

1. Assessment

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As with any project, we start by fully understanding our current environment. How else are you going to manage, secure and control something if you don’t know what it looks like, to begin with?

Your first step should be to carry out a thorough data assessment, understand what you have, where it is, how much there is, if it’s looked at, what’s contained within it and of course, who, when, where and why it’s accessed.

This is crucial in allowing us to decide what data is important, what you need to keep and what you can dispose of. This is not only valuable for compliance but has commercial implications as well: why take on the costs of storing, protecting and securing stuff that nobody even looks at?

2. Education

It’s too easy to look at our users as the weakness in our security strategy when they should be our strength. They won’t ever be, however, if we don’t encourage, educate and train them.

Technology can help provide training, develop simple-to-use document repositories or keep them on their toes with regular orchestrated phishing tests. This helps users develop skills, keeps them aware and allows us to develop metrics against which we can measure our success.

We must move away from the annual “lunch and learn” briefing and realize we need tools that allow us to continually educate.

3. Breaches

breachThe GDPR places a major focus on our ability to identify breaches quickly and accurately and be able to report on exactly what data we have lost. Traditionally this is an area in which business have been lacking, taking weeks, months or maybe even years to be aware of a breach. In a world where we are ever more data-reliant, this cannot be acceptable.

Technology is the only way to meet these stringent reporting requirements. How else will you know the when, where and how of a breach?

But technology isn’t only about reporting. The ability to have such visibility of data usage —  the who, where and when of access — will allow us to quickly detect and stop a breach, or at least reduce its impact.

4. Data protection by design

This is perhaps the most positive part of GDPR, as it will encourage us to build data protection into the very core of our infrastructure, systems and data repositories. Whether on-prem or in the cloud, under our control or a service providers, security has to be at the heart of our design — not an afterthought.

We need to use this as an opportunity to encourage cultural change, one where the importance of our data is not underestimated, where maintaining its integrity, security and privacy is a priority for everyone, not just IT.

Is the GDPR a lot of work? Yes.

Is it worth it? In my opinion, 100%, yes — GDPR is a real positive driver for a long overdue and crucial change and should be embraced.


Taking VMware to the cloud – Ben Meadowcroft – Ep43

Over the last couple of episodes, we’ve had some interesting round-ups from the recent VMWorld conference, reviewing the announcements from the show, as well as how VMware are evolving to maintain relevance to their many customers in an ever more software defined, data-centric and of course cloud and as-a-service based world.

Part of the VMware response to these changes ( I hasten to add, not the only technological evolutions they are making) is a smart one, rather than fight the tide King Canute style, VMware is not only embracing that change, but looking to empower it and make businesses ability to embrace a cloud-based world a more straightforward transition.

Embracing this change comes in the form of VMware Cloud on AWS, providing the ability to run your own VMware vSphere environment on top of a dedicated set of AWS resources, providing the flexibility and economics of cloud, while maintaining an infrastructure and management platform that you already know.

This sounds like a really smart move, helping customers to make that tricky transition, keeping it seamless by providing flexibility and integration with your existing on-prem environments, without your IT teams needing to embark on a whole new learning path to understand your cloud platforms.

However, as smart as this sounds, the response has not been totally supportive, with some people asking is there really a need for this type of technology and why, if you are making the investment in AWS, why not just do that, why add these additional VMware costs and infrastructure components?

That is the topic we explore on this week’s show as I’m joined by Ben Meadowcroft, a Product Line Manager at VMware with a focus on VMware Cloud on AWS.

I catch up with Ben to understand more about the solution, why the solution exists at all, the challenges that business faces when building a hybrid solution and how VMware Cloud on AWS is helping to ease that transition, simplify the integration and allow us to start taking advantage of the capabilities of the AWS platform, while removing some of the challenges many of us face when making that transition.

Ben gives some great insight into the platform as well as some helpful use case examples to help you decide whether this kind of technology is a good fit for you.

To find out more details on the solution you can find great resources in the following places;

For an overview of the solution check out cloud.vmware.com/vmc-aws

You can get some hands-on experience with VMWare’s hands-on lab environment at vmware.com/go/try-vmc-aws-hol

To keep up with the latest news you can also follow @vmwarecloudaws on twitter.

Finally, if you want to catch up with Ben you can also find him on twitter @benmeadowcroft

Personally, I think VMWare cloud on AWS is a really interesting solution and I can see it meeting needs in a number of enterprises, check out the show and provide your feedback, either on here or message me @techstringy on twitter.

Next time we start a series of shows looking at the ever-evolving data security challenge.

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As an Interesting bit of information, friend of the show @MichaelCade1 of Veeam produced this really handy blog post on how you can protect your VMware Cloud on AWS environment, using the Veeam tools you already know and love, worth a read, as protecting your data in AWS is your responsibility.

You can read his post here.

Ben in this episode did cover some VMware Cloud on AWS roadmap items, with this in mind, he’s asked me to include the following disclaimer.

Disclaimer

This presentation may contain product features that are currently under development.

This overview of new technology represents no commitment from VMware to deliver these features in any generally available product.

Features are subject to change, and must not be included in contracts, purchase orders, or sales agreements of any kind.

Technical feasibility and market demand will affect final delivery.

Pricing and packaging for any new technologies or features discussed or presented have not been determined.

 

VMworld – It’s a Wrap – Ep42

VMware, along with Microsoft, is perhaps the most influential enterprise software company in the industry. VMware and their virtualisation technology has revolutionised the way we deliver IT infrastructure into businesses of all types.

It is not just traditional virtualisation they have made commonplace, the way they have driven the industry to accept our IT infrastructure can be software-defined, has made it more straightforward for us to adopt many of the modern technology platforms, such as cloud.

Today, however, the infrastructure revolution they helped create presents challenges to them, as the broad adoption of cloud and new ways of managing and deploying our infrastructure has led to the question “how do VMware remain relevant in a post virtualisation world?”

The answer is, of course, found by understanding how VMware see those challenges and what their strategic plans are for their own future development. There is no better way of doing that than spending time at their annual technical conference VMworld.

In last week’s show (Was it good for you? – vmworld 2017 – Ep41) we discussed with 4 attendees their views on what they learnt, what VMware shared and what they thought of the strategic messages the heard during the keynotes.

This week, we wrap up our VMworld coverage and a look at the modern VMware with two more insightful discussions.

Firstly, I’m joined by Joel Kaufman ( @TheJoelk on twitter) of NetApp. Joel has had a long relationship with VMware in his time at NetApp and has seen how they have evolved to meet the needs of their business customers and their ever-changing challenges.

We discuss that evolution as well as how NetApp has had to deal with the same challenges, looking at how a “traditional” storage vendor must evolve to continue to remain relevant in a cloud-driven, software-defined world.

 

To wrap up, I wanted a VMware view of their event and I’m joined by a returning guest to the show and voice of the VMware Virtually Speaking Podcast, Pete Flecha.

We discuss the key messages from the event, VMware’s place in the world, what VMWare on AWS brings and how VMware are getting their “mojo back” by embracing new ways of working with tools such as Kubernetes, delivering deeper security, tying together multiple platforms with their NSX technology and how VMware is giving us the ability to “Software Define All Of The Things”.

Pete gives an enthusiastic insight on how VMware view their own show and how they are going to continue to be extremely relevant in enterprise IT for a long time to come.

If you want to hear more from Pete you can find him on twitter @vPedroArrow and you can keep up with all the latest VMware news with Pete’s excellent podcast here at www.vspeakingpodcast.com.

That completes our wrap-up of VMworld 2017.

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Was it good for you? – vmworld 2017 – Ep41

This time of the year is a busy one for the technology industry as we move into conference season. But are these events worth your while, or are they just an excuse for a few days off and a good time?

I suppose the answer lies in how you spend your time, there is no doubt you can attend these events and just have them as time out of the office and a chance to catch up with friends over a few drinks. But, if you treat these events as that, I think you are missing out.

For me, I always see them as huge opportunities. I can hear a vendors mid and long-term strategy, understand their direction and critically, whether that direction continues to remain relevant to my business and the challenges that I’m facing.

It’s also a great opportunity to educate myself, to learn more about a technology, from an introduction to deep dive and over 3 or 4 days, a chance to learn about a wide range of technologies in a way that a more traditional training course just cannot offer.

While I don’t suggest you spend all of your time in a bar, the chance to network, spend a few days with friends and peers in the industry, to understand the latest challenges they are facing, how they are overcoming them and what’s next, is a priceless part of the event investment.

In this week’s podcast, we explore the value of one of the industries largest conferences VMware’s annual VMworld event. Run over two weeks, one in Las Vegas and the European event in Barcelona, VMworld is one of the largest gatherings of customers, partners and technology vendors in the industry.

Over the next two shows, I get a cross-section of views from those who attended Vegas and Barcelona to hear what they thought of the event, what VMware covered and how well that fits in with their needs and those of the wider enterprise IT market.

In this first show, I talk to 4 attendees about their experience and what they learned.

Becky Elliot – Becky is a Senior Systems Administrator for a US government contractor,  this was Becky’s first VMworld, we discussed how she took the practical approach, taking time to attend sessions with a day to day relevance to her job, as well as having a great time testing her skills at the Hackathon session.

You can follow Becky on twitter @beckylelliott

Mark Carlton040317_0726_Availabilit1.jpgI also catch up with two regular guests, Michael Cade (@MichaelCade1) from Veeam and Mark Carlton (@mcarlton1983) of Concorde IT, both also attending their first VMworld’s, we discuss the strategic messages from the keynotes, look at how VMware is evolving, as the world they have built their success on continues to change and whether the changes they are making are the right ones.

And finally, I chat with Barry Coombes – Barry is the Operations Director at Computerworld Group and unlike my other guests caught up with the Vegas show online, before heading off to Barcelona. We discuss the major announcements from the keynotes as well as the technology he is looking to find out more about in Barcelona. We also talk about Barry’s unique approach to note taking!

You can find Barry on twitter @VirtualisedReal check out his show note doodles here http://www.definetomorrow.co.uk/blog/2017/9/9/vmworld-us-2017-doodles and finally look out for Barry’s own excellent podcast by finding Define Tomorrow in your favourite podcatcher.

Next week I get more views from VMworld, including chatting with VMware’s Pete Flecha for the VMware view of VMworld 2017.

To find out more about VMworld, you can check out their website https://www.vmworld.com/en/us/index.html

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IT Avengers Part Three – Reassembled– Ep40

This week is the third and last of our panel discussions looking at the major challenges facing business IT.  We pick up again with our panel from last week (You can find last weeks show here IT Avengers Part Two – Assemble Again – Ep39).

They continue their debate with a look at how a business vision, without assessment and understanding of the current environment, may well mean you never achieve your end goal.

We also look at skill sets and how our increasingly digital native workforce, may lead us to problems in understanding how to architect our future solutions.

The changing role of the IT consultant also comes under scrutiny, however as that role evolves, the overall aim of ensuring that those wishing to use technology to improve their businesses make the right choices, does not.

We wrap up looking at the future challenges the panel see and how for one of them, decoupling data from infrastructure is living the tech dream!

As a reminder, the panel is;

Ed Morgan a Sales Engineer for Rubrik Inc.

Ed has an extensive IT background having worked for over 10 years as a datacentre technologist across multiple technology platforms. Today Ed has made the leap to a vendor, now working for Rubrik, providing him with a wide view of the industry.

You can find more from Ed on twitter @mo6020 or his blog https://blog.edmorgan.info/

Mick Kehoe is Chief Technologist at Logicalis in Ireland. He is heavily data focused in his role helping his businesses customers to find answers too the many challenges that come with data management, from storing it, to analysing it.

Mick sees a wide range of challenges and working with some of the country’s biggest organisations has a great handle on what is happening to businesses of all types.

Mick is on the twitters @mickehoe

Ruairi McBride is a Technical Account Manager at Arrow ECS. Working with Arrow’s large partner channel, Ruairi gets a fantastic overview of the requirements of a vast spectrum of businesses in the UK and out to a wider global market. With a speciality in storage infrastructures, Ruairi offers great insights into the challenges seen by many of us.

You can find him on twitter @mcbride_ruairi

Jason Benedicic is Principal Consultant for ANS Group, working closely with their large customer portfolio.

Jason has a great experience of working with businesses at all levels, from boardroom to techie, providing him with valuable knowledge from the boardroom business challenge to the nuts and bolts of delivery, allowing him to bring some really valuable knowledge and experience to our discussion.

Jason can be found on twitter @jabenedicic and his soon to be launched blog http://www.thedatacentrebrit.co.uk/

You can find the first episode of the IT Avengers panel right here IT Avengers Assemble – Part One – Ep38

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IT Avengers Part Two – Assemble Again – Ep39

The IT Avengers are assembling again this week, but this time I’m joined by a whole new team, as four more experts from the IT community share their view on the current state of IT within business, the day to day issues and how to overcome them.

This week’s podcast panel is;

Ed Morgan a Sales Engineer for Rubrik Inc.

Ed has an extensive IT background having worked for over 10 years as a datacentre technologist across multiple technology platforms. Today Ed has made the leap to a vendor, now working for Rubrik, providing him with a wide view of the industry.

You can find more from Ed on twitter @mo6020 or his blog https://blog.edmorgan.info/

Mick Kehoe is Chief Technologist at Logicalis in Ireland. He is heavily data focused in his role helping his businesses customers to find answers too the many challenges that come with data management, from storing it, to analysing it.

Mick sees a wide range of challenges and working with some of the country’s biggest organisations has a great handle on what is happening to businesses of all types.

Mick is on the twitters @mickehoe

Ruairi McBride is a Technical Account Manager at Arrow ECS. Working with Arrow’s large partner channel, Ruairi gets a fantastic overview of the requirements of a vast spectrum of businesses in the UK and out to a wider global market. With a speciality in storage infrastructures, Ruairi offers great insights into the challenges seen by many of us.

You can find him on twitter @mcbride_ruairi

Jason Benedicic is Principal Consultant for ANS Group, working closely with their large customer portfolio.

Jason has a great experience of working with businesses at all levels, from boardroom to techie, providing him with valuable knowledge from the boardroom business challenge to the nuts and bolts of delivery, allowing him to bring some really valuable knowledge and experience to our discussion.

Jason can be found on twitter @jabenedicic and his soon to be launched blog http://www.thedatacentrebrit.co.uk/

Again it’s an information packed show, so packed in fact that I’ve decided to split it into two episodes, with the final part coming next week.

In this first part we tackle another round of business IT challenges. We look at how many of us have a “cloud first” strategy, without really knowing what that means?

We also look at why “cloud first” doesn’t mean that everything has to rush to the cloud and why taking your existing infrastructure and “lifting and shifting it” to AWS is hardly ever the right answer!

We also look at something that was a topic last week, as we discuss how getting the basics right and how a focus on the “boring old stuff” isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

We wrap by looking at the importance of a good foundation as critical to your future success.

Hopefully plenty more valuable information and something to help you tackle your current business IT challenges.

Next week, we’ll finish off this brief series of panel discussions as we hear more from the team on the key challenges they are seeing.

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You can find last week’s first episode of the IT Avengers panel right here IT Avengers Assemble – Part One – Ep38

IT Avengers Assemble – Part One – Ep38

This weeks Tech Interviews is the first in a short series, where I bring together a selection of people from the IT community to try to gauge the current state of business IT and to gain some insight into the key day-to-day issues affecting those delivering technology to their organisations.

For this first episode i’m joined by three returning guests to the show.

Mich040317_0726_Availabilit1.jpgael Cade is a Technical Evangelist at Veeam. Michael spends his time working closely with both the IT community and Veeam’s business customers to understand the day-to-day challenges that they face from availability to cloud migration.

You can find Michael on twitter @MichaelCade1 and his blog at vzilla.co.uk 

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Mike Andrews is a Technical Solutions Architect at storage vendor NetApp, specialising in NetApp’s cloud portfolio, today Mike works closely with NetApp’s wide range of customers to explore how to solve the most challenging of business issues.

You can find Mike on social media on twitter @TrekinTech and on his blog site trekintech.com

Mark CarltonMark Carlton is Group Technical Manager at Concorde IT Group, he has an extensive experience in the industry having worked in a number of different types of technology businesses, today Mark works closely with a range of customers helping them to use technology to solve business challenges.

Mark is on twitter @mcarlton1983 and at his fantastically titled justswitchitonandoff.com blog.

The panel discuss a range of issues, from availability to cloud migration, the importance of the basics and how understanding the why, rather than the how is a crucial part of getting your technology strategy right.

The team provide some excellent insights into a whole range of business IT challenges and I’m sure there’s some useful advice for everyone.

Next time I’m joined by four more IT avengers, as we look at some of the other key challenges facing business IT.

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Controlling your cloud – Robert Cox – Ep 37

The podcast is back from its summer holidays, a week earlier than expected, with this special episode looking at a problem that is often overlooked.

There is no argument that increasingly we are taking more of our business IT solutions as services, be that building platforms and infrastructure in an AWS or Azure, or whether it’s consuming specific software as a service (SaaS) solutions like Salesforce or of course the almost omnipotent Microsoft Office 365.

The benefits of taking our IT services in this way are many, flexibility, scalability, availability and the commercial attraction in taking a service under subscription.

However, many people operate their SaaS solution under the assumption that their service provider is not only providing them with a highly available infrastructure, but are also protecting all of their data by inherently providing backup and recovery facilities, protecting our data from corruption, deletion, theft or destruction and it’s a real shock to them when they find out that in reality their service provider does not do any of this.

Let’s take Microsoft Office 365 and Azure, in Microsoft’s own shared responsibility document they point out, while they are responsible for the platform YOU ARE responsible for YOUR DATA. If it is lost they are not responsible for recovering it.

It is this that is the focus of this episode as I robert-coxcaught up with Robert Cox of NetApp before he headed off to AWS summit, to talk about NetApp’s new SaaS data protection solution Cloud Control for Office 365.

We look at why SaaS solutions are popular and why the market is moving toward them and explore the risks that come with that move.

We look at why, when we move our data to a SaaS platform, there is often an abdication of responsibility for our data that would never be acceptable in our own datacentres

We discuss good practice for SaaS housed data and the kind of backup and recovery capabilities that maybe useful to us and although this episode is focused on Office 365, we also chat about why this is a challenge for a large number of SaaS services.

We wrap up by looking at what NetApp are doing in this space to help their customers protect their data.

It was great to grab Robert before he headed of to AWS summit, to discuss this often still misunderstood area by those embracing SaaS in their businesses.

If you want to know more about what NetApp are doing to help, you can find out about Cloud Control for Office365 here and also get a free trial.

If you have further questions you can of course contact me on twitter @techstringy or Robert directly at Robert.cox@netapp.com or you can find him on twitter @scoxnew.

Hope you enjoyed the show and it helps you to take control of your SaaS based data.

The podcast is back properly from its summer holidays next week, as I’m joined by a panel of tech community experts as I ask them to give their views on the current big issues facing business IT.

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